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Excommunication fight deepens as Trump, Vance and Leo XIV clash

Excommunication tensions rise as JD Vance and Pope Leo XIV trade blows over Iran, faith and Donald Trump’s rhetoric.

Catholics welcome everyone, but can they handle some of these new converts?
Catholics welcome everyone, but can they handle some of these new converts?

stepped into the Vatican’s fight with President last week, telling a event that should be careful when speaking on theology after the pope denounced Trump’s threats against Iran. The clash has turned a policy dispute into a public family argument, with the pope, the vice president and the president all now part of the same ugly conversation.

Vance, a relatively recent Catholic convert, said, “I think it’s very, very important for the pope to be careful when he talks about matters of theology,” after Leo had criticized Trump’s comments on the war in Iran. Trump, for his part, posted an AI-generated image of himself depicted as Jesus and later called the pope “weak on crime,” sharpening a feud that has already spread far beyond Washington.

The argument took on added force after Trump posted on social media that Iran could lose its entire civilization if it did not bend to his will. Leo responded to reporters, “Today, as we all know, there was this threat against the entire people of Iran, and this is truly unacceptable.” That exchange made the dispute about more than style or partisan loyalty; it became a test of how far a pope can go in condemning a U.S. president’s threats in a war that has already inflamed Catholic opinion.

The backlash has been broad inside the church. columnist said the feud between the pope and the president has led to admonishments from nearly every bishop in the church, and he framed the deeper tension as one between lifelong Catholics and newer converts who speak with unusual confidence about the faith. “I love converts, but you move into somebody’s house, you don’t start rearranging the furniture,” he said. Vance’s comments put that divide on open display, with a vice president who entered the church recently now telling the pope to be more careful about theology while the pope accuses Trump’s rhetoric of threatening an entire people. The next question is not whether the quarrel will fade on its own, but how long church leaders can keep treating it as a side issue while one of the country’s most visible Catholics keeps daring Rome to answer back.

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